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| -!- sandy changed the topic of #mono-a11y to: Accessibility & Mono | http://www.mono-project.com/Accessibilit y | Iteration meeting in progress
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| <@brad>
| hey folks
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| do we have our contingent from utah yet?
| 07:02
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| bgmerrell, decriptor: ?
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| alright, we'll get started anyway and they can catch up
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| <@sandy>
| maybe they forgot like me...
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| :-)
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| <@brad>
| they're probably getting some rest :)
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| so the release went out last night
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| woohoooo
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| unfortunately it was delayed a day for 64-bit issues that came up at the last minute
| 07:03
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| so I'll be planning a little catchup meeting with Brian and Stephen to make a list of things to remember in future release
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| releases*
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| so we can avoid this sort of delay in the future
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| if anyone is interested, please blog about it
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| so we can get some good press
| 07:04
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| anyway, on to this iteration
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| as before, we still need to prioritize p1 and p2 issues that QA discovers
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| so that we can assist them with their testing
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| after that, we need to finish up the remaining 0.9 bugs
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| last I checked, there were 120.5 hours of that
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| and finally, we need to begin on 1.0 features
| 07:05
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| for this sprint, I've changed the velocity (estimated number of hours per day) from 6 to 5
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| because our last sprint we did really well in that the graph was as we expected
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| but I know that was mainly because people worked extra hours
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| so if we allow for more "interruption time", maybe we'll hit our target better
| 07:06
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| of course, the goal is to have 0 hours remaining at the end of the iteration
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| but that almost never happens
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| so that shouldn't be the goal
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| if there arent any questions, I guess let's get started planning our sprints?
| 07:07
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| <@sandy>
| question
| 07:08
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| <@brad>
| go ahead
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| <@sandy>
| should Mario and I focus on outstanding provider work, or outstanding 0.9 bridge work first?
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| I assume none of it is going into 0.9.1
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| (for enhancement bugs)
| 07:09
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| <@brad>
| good question... let's have neville, mario, you and I go back to what we know best, provider work, until we get down to 0 remaining provider bugs
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| <@sandy>
| coolio
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| <@brad>
| any other questions/comments?
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| cool
| 07:10
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| give me a minute, and I'll let you guys know how many hours you should plan
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| 8 days * 5 hours = 40 hours
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| lets give that a shot
| 07:11
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| sandy: check out #428718... aren't the Label providers done?
| 07:12
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| <@sandy>
| brad: I notice very few bugs are actually targeted for 1.0
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| <@brad>
| I'll fix that... one moment
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| <@sandy>
| brad: looking...
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| haha, yeah
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| * sandy
| closes
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| <@sandy>
| oh, there are a couple more
| 07:13
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| just need a unit testing saying "we don't support these patterns"
| 07:14
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| I'll assign to myself
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| <@brad>
| sandy: what about the other Label ones... 428719-428722?
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| <@knocte>
| shouldn't berserk be blank again?
| 07:15
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| <@sandy>
| right, those I'm assigning to myself, and just need unit tests confirming that those patterns are unsupported
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| <@brad>
| knocte: yeah, I just created the new iteration... I think the page is cached, one sec
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| <@knocte>
| oh ok
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| <@brad>
| for right now, go to http://build0.sled.lab.novell.com/sprint s/3/
| 07:16
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| there are some bugs that need to be ironed out, apparentl
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| sandy: I'll take MaskedTextBox, MonthCalendar, TabPage and TabControl
| 07:17
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| <@sandy>
| oh, mario's not here
| 07:18
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| <@brad>
| yeah, we'll just have to let him pick up what's left
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| * ngao
| can't connect to vpn :(
| 07:19
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| <@sandy>
| woah did you milestone them all?
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| already?
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| <@brad>
| yea
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| <@sandy>
| that was fast
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| <@brad>
| sandy: have you never used the batch feature of Bugzilla?
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| <@sandy>
| ...
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| <@brad>
| "Change multiple bugs at once"
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| <@sandy>
| tell me about it later
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| you are going to blow my mind sir
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| <@ray>
| :)
| 07:20
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| <@ngao>
| I will finish ToolBar and ToolStripSeperator first, then pick up new ones
| 07:25
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| <@brad>
| ngao: I'd prefer if you assign out 40 hours total... just pick things from the 1.0 pool
| 07:26
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| <@sandy>
| I'll take TreeView...
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| <@knocte>
| hey hey, bug in berserk
| 07:27
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| <@ngao>
| brad: ok
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| <@knocte>
| 428605 is being contabilized as 3 hr instead of 0.5
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| <@brad>
| knocte: where?
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| <@mgorse>
| Are other people able to connect to Berserk? I'm having trouble resolving
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| -!- calen [~calen@61.149.60.75] has joined #mono-a11y
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| <@brad>
| hmm, works fine here, but I'm on the N network
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| * decriptor
| sneaks in and catches up
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| <@ray>
| calen, you are in time :)
| 07:28
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| < calen>
| brad, sorry i come back late,
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| <@ngao>
| I'll take Splitter
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| <@brad>
| calen: no problem
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| < calen>
| ray :D
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| <@brad>
| knocte: I don't see it on the list
| 07:29
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| <@ngao>
| and will take SplitContainer
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| <@sandy>
| brad: TreeView is huge, apparently
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| puts me at 48 total
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| <@brad>
| apparently
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| <@sandy>
| should I remove an 8 hour bug or just leave it alone?
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| <@knocte>
| brad: well, I've removed it now, but if I add it, it sums 3 to the total hours
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| do you want me to re-add it?
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| <@sandy>
| I just assigned every TreeView bug to myself :-P
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| <@brad>
| knocte: yeah, add it so I can see
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| <@sandy>
| meh, I'll trash one
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| <@knocte>
| done
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| <@sandy>
| well, that won't work...
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| okay, bam
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| done
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| <@brad>
| knocte: looks right to me... I think it is rounding on the view
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| probably rounding down too
| 07:33
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| <@knocte>
| ohhhh, but it's not happening now
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| last time I added it, it was counting as 3, I promise :)
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| now it's rounding to 0
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| <@brad>
| heisenbug or pebkac?
| 07:34
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| :)
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| <@sandy>
| haha, heisenbug
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| that's a new one
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| awesome
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| <@brad>
| o rly? I've used that forever
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| <@sandy>
| new to me
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| cool, so any other meeting business?
| 07:36
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| <@ngao>
| brad: we will need to estimate bugs ourselves?
| 07:37
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| <@brad>
| ngao: if they don't have estimates, yes
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| (or if you think the estimates are wrong)
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| <@ngao>
| brad: ok
| 07:38
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| <@brad>
| mgorse: still having issues getting to berserk?
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| <@mgorse>
| brad: Yes. build0.sled.lab.novell.com won't resolve for me
| 07:39
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| <@ray>
| mgorse, i guess you have to login Novell amercan's VPN
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| <@brad>
| mgorse: weird... are you VPN'ed in?
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| <@mgorse>
| brad: yes
| 07:40
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| <@brad>
| strange... well, I guess you can try again later?
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| <@ray>
| once i loged in American's VPN, i could access berserk, so was ngao
| 07:41
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| <@mgorse>
| weird
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| < calen>
| sandy, I just add a new bug for StatusBarPanel https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi ?id=449317
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| sandy, can you take a look?
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| <@sandy>
| calen: no problem
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| did you see my comment about the Image thing?
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| < calen>
| sandy, thanks :)
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| sandy, oh, sorry i didn't, i will read them soon
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| -!- You're now known as sandy|brb
| 07:45
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| * bgmerrell
| is here
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| < calen>
| bgmerrell, morning!
| 07:46
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| <@bgmerrell>
| calen: hello!
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| sorry i'm late
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| <@decriptor>
| bgmerrell: we are making provo look bad :(
| 07:47
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| <@ray>
| bgmerrell, morning, dude :)
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| decriptor, and morning you :)
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| <@brad>
| decriptor: yeah, sandy is schooling you guys
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| <@knocte>
| brad, sandy|brb: I assume we can close 428779 right?
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| <@bgmerrell>
| decriptor: i'd like to see boston make 8am meetings *every* time ;)
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| <@brad>
| knocte: yeah
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| bgmerrell: heh, I'm up at 5:20, so it wouldn't be an issue for me
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| <@bgmerrell>
| brad: yeesh!
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| <@decriptor>
| bgmerrell: I don't... that means that we would have 6am meetins
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| <@bgmerrell>
| no, sorry, i just totally forgot
| 07:49
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| <@brad>
| bgmerrell: well, a man has to have quiet time to work on Blue Steel
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| <@bgmerrell>
| brad: is that your new cologne?
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| or *the look*
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| <@brad>
| bgmerrell: sigh. not a zoolander fan?
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| <@ray>
| decriptor, so what's the problems with 64-bit builds? could i give out the helping hand?
| 07:50
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| <@brad>
| the look, of course
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| <@decriptor>
| ray: they are fixed
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| <@bgmerrell>
| brad: yeah, i love zoolander, it just took me a sec
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| <@knocte>
| brad: why does it say less load than 100% if I selected more than 40h? is the new velocity unset?
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| <@brad>
| knocte: berserk doesn't count the two holidays
| 07:51
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| <@knocte>
| oh
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| <@decriptor>
| I need more power captain
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| <@bgmerrell>
| calen: ray: we need to go through our deadlines and see what we got done. i didn't finish much because of the release issues :(
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| <@ray>
| decriptor, wow, where could i see the build logs of 64-bit builds?
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| <@decriptor>
| obs
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| on Mono:UIA
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| <@bgmerrell>
| I got a lot of things *almost* finished though :)
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| <@ray>
| decriptor, i just see 64-bit packages were disabled :)
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| bgmerrell, it's ok , we will follow you up :)
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| < calen>
| bgmerrell, okay
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| bgmerrell, do you like opening a new channel or just in here?
| 07:54
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| <@decriptor>
| ray: ?
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| <@ngao>
| i'll take ColumnHeader
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| <@bgmerrell>
| ray: calen: let's go to mono-a11y-qa
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| <@decriptor>
| brad: you saw that the tarballs are up and the release notes updated, right?
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| ray: checking
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| bgmerrell: you guys have your own channel?
| 07:56
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| <@bgmerrell>
| decriptor: sometimes
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| <@ray>
| decriptor, i mean i saw the packages were disabled on MonoPreviewOpenSUSE11.0 64-bit :)
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| <@brad>
| decriptor: si, muchas gracias
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| <@decriptor>
| ray: which project were you looking at?
| 07:57
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| * ray
| is connecting to obs
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| <@decriptor>
| ray: they are enabled for me
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| <@ray>
| decriptor, the internet connection is too slow here, i cannot connect to it :(
| 07:58
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| <@ngao>
| mgorse: i just have bug428594 patch updated, could you have a look?
| 08:00
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| <@knocte>
| brad (et al): wow, just saw the new mono-a11y emails about the glib# issue and replied, let me insist: I knew the problem yesterday, not 2 weeks before now
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| <@bgmerrell>
| so, i saw some questions about the P1 bugs QA is logging, is that all cleared up?
| 08:01
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| <@brad>
| knocte: sorry I was mistaken about the timing... from your email it sounded like this was something others knew about that should have held up the release
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| <@knocte>
| brad: ok, thanks for your apologies; sorry for sounding as a severe issue
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| <@mgorse>
| I only found the issue because I was working on active-descendant-changed, which I'm not planning to backport
| 08:05
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| <@decriptor>
| ray: you can run osc prjresults [package] in your osc directory
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| <@mgorse>
| ngao: looking
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| <@decriptor>
| so in osc/Mono:UIA I run osc prjresults mono-core for example
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| -!- You're now known as sandy
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| <@ray>
| decriptor, oh, thanks you, you enlightened me !! :)
| 08:06
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| <@decriptor>
| ray: I should really make up a cheat sheet or something for OBS :)
| 08:07
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| <@ray>
| decriptor, :D
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| decriptor, but my time is limited, i have to go offline, i'll check it out tomorrow, the StarBucks will be closed within 5 minutes
| 08:08
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| <@decriptor>
| lol
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| ray: later then
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| <@mgorse>
| ngao: I don't think that NMimeTypes should return 1 if we don't have an implementation for GetStream. I'd suggest setting it back to 0 and adding a TODO to change to 1 once GetStream is implemented
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| since otherwise we're advertizing that GetStream should work when it doesn't
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| -!- decriptor is now known as decriptor|brb
| 08:13
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| <@brad>
| decriptor|brb: mind if I create an account for myself on build0? I'm tired of logging in as root
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| -!- sandy changed the topic of #mono-a11y to: Accessibility & Mono | http://www.mono-project.com/Accessibilit y | Latest release is 0.9.0
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